Iphone 12 mini vs iphone se 1st gen

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Would anyone like to point out the major difference's that could be missed out on by not upgrading to an iPhone mini and staying with an SE 1st generation iPhone. Also have just purchased a iPad Air Wi-Fi w/ cellular 256GB.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2020 8:54 AM

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The iPhone SE is basically a 6s in a smaller package.

The processor is now 5 generations behind what's in the 12 mini.

The 12 mini also has a much better camera, a much better display, and of course, Face ID.

Yes, the SE will run iOS 14. If your SE does what you want, and you're not concerned about the updates, then there's no sense in spending the money.

Given the age of the SE, however, your battery may be approaching the end of useful life. I would hesitate before sinking any money into replacing the battery on a device that old.

Posted on Dec 20, 2020 9:04 AM

Dec 20, 2020 9:04 AM in response to Oldschoolappleuser In response to Oldschoolappleuser

The iPhone SE is basically a 6s in a smaller package.

The processor is now 5 generations behind what's in the 12 mini.

The 12 mini also has a much better camera, a much better display, and of course, Face ID.

Yes, the SE will run iOS 14. If your SE does what you want, and you're not concerned about the updates, then there's no sense in spending the money.

Given the age of the SE, however, your battery may be approaching the end of useful life. I would hesitate before sinking any money into replacing the battery on a device that old.

Dec 20, 2020 9:04 AM

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Question: Q: iPhone SE 1st generation vs iPhone 12 mini

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Network	Technology	GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE	GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE / 5G	GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - A1662, A1723	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM)	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only)
	CDMA 800 / 1900 - A1662, A1723	CDMA 800 / 1900	CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands	HSDPA 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - A1662, A1723	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - Global, USA
	CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - A1662, A1723	CDMA2000 1xEV-DO	CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - USA
	TD‑SCDMA - A1723
4G bands	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 29 - A1662	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 46, 48, 66, 71 - A2176	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 32, 38, 39, 40, 41, 66 - Global
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41 - A1723	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 46, 48, 66 - A2399, A2400	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71 - USA
		1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 46, 48, 66, 71 - A2398
5G bands		1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 25, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 71, 77, 78, 79, 260, 261 Sub6/mmWave - A2176
		1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20, 25, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 77, 78, 79 Sub6 - A2398, A2399, A2400
Speed	HSPA, LTE-A Cat4 150/50 Mbps	HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A, 5G, EV-DO Rev.A 3.1 Mbps	HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (7CA) Cat20 2000/150 Mbps

Launch	Announced	2016, March 21. Released 2016, March 31	2020, October 13	2019, February 20
Status	Discontinued	Available. Released 2020, November 13	Available. Released 2019, March 08

Body	Dimensions	123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm (4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 in)	131.5 x 64.2 x 7.4 mm (5.18 x 2.53 x 0.29 in)	142.2 x 69.9 x 7.9 mm (5.60 x 2.75 x 0.31 in)
Weight	113 g (3.99 oz)	135 g (4.76 oz)	150 g (5.29 oz)
Build	Glass front (Corning-made glass), aluminum back, aluminum frame	Glass front (Corning-made glass), glass back (Corning-made glass), aluminum frame	Glass front (Gorilla Glass 5), glass back (Gorilla Glass 5), aluminum frame
SIM	Nano-SIM	Single SIM (Nano-SIM and/or eSIM) or Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)	Single SIM (Nano-SIM) or Hybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
	Apple Pay (Visa, MasterCard, AMEX certified)	IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 6m for 30 mins) Apple Pay (Visa, MasterCard, AMEX certified)	IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)

Display	Type	IPS LCD	Super Retina XDR OLED, HDR10, Dolby Vision, 625 nits (HBM), 1200 nits (peak)	Dynamic AMOLED, HDR10+
Size	4.0 inches, 44.1 cm2 (~60.8% screen-to-body ratio)	5.4 inches, 71.9 cm2 (~85.1% screen-to-body ratio)	5.8 inches, 82.8 cm2 (~83.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution	640 x 1136 pixels, 16:9 ratio (~326 ppi density)	1080 x 2340 pixels, 19.5:9 ratio (~476 ppi density)	1080 x 2280 pixels, 19:9 ratio (~438 ppi density)
Protection		Ceramic Shield glass	Corning Gorilla Glass 5
			Always-on display

Platform	OS	iOS 9.3.2, upgradable to iOS 15.7	iOS 14.1, upgradable to iOS 16.0.3	Android 9.0 (Pie), upgradable to Android 12, One UI 4.1
Chipset	Apple A9 (14 nm)	Apple A14 Bionic (5 nm)	Exynos 9820 (8 nm) - EMEA/LATAM Qualcomm SM8150 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/China
CPU	Dual-core 1.84 GHz Twister	Hexa-core (2x3.1 GHz Firestorm + 4x1.8 GHz Icestorm)	Octa-core (2x2.73 GHz Mongoose M4 & 2x2.31 GHz Cortex-A75 & 4x1.95 GHz Cortex-A55) - EMEA/LATAM Octa-core (1x2.84 GHz Kryo 485 & 3x2.42 GHz Kryo 485 & 4x1.78 GHz Kryo 485) - USA/China
GPU	PowerVR GT7600 (six-core graphics)	Apple GPU (4-core graphics)	Mali-G76 MP12 - EMEA/LATAM Adreno 640 - USA/China

Memory	Card slot	No	No	microSDXC (uses shared SIM slot) - dual SIM model only
Internal	16GB 2GB RAM, 32GB 2GB RAM, 64GB 2GB RAM, 128GB 2GB RAM	64GB 4GB RAM, 128GB 4GB RAM, 256GB 4GB RAM	128GB 6GB RAM, 128GB 8GB RAM, 256GB 8GB RAM
	NVMe	NVMe	UFS 2.1

Main Camera	Modules	12 MP, f/2.2, 29mm (standard), 1/3", 1.22µm, PDAF	12 MP, f/1.6, 26mm (wide), 1.4µm, dual pixel PDAF, OIS 12 MP, f/2.4, 13mm, 120˚ (ultrawide), 1/3.6"	12 MP, f/1.5-2.4, 26mm (wide), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, OIS 16 MP, f/2.2, 12mm (ultrawide), 1/3.1", 1.0µm, Super Steady video
Features	Dual-LED dual-tone flash, HDR	Dual-LED dual-tone flash, HDR (photo/panorama)	LED flash, auto-HDR, panorama
Video	4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60fps, 1080p@120fps, 720p@240fps	4K@24/30/60fps, 1080p@30/60/120/240fps, HDR, Dolby Vision HDR (up to 30fps), stereo sound rec.	4K@60fps (no EIS), 4K@30fps, 1080p@30/60/240fps, 720p@960fps, HDR10+, stereo sound rec., gyro-EIS & OIS

Selfie Camera	Modules	1.2 MP, f/2.4, 31mm (standard)	12 MP, f/2.2, 23mm (wide), 1/3.6" SL 3D, (depth/biometrics sensor)	10 MP, f/1.9, 26mm (wide), 1/3", 1.22µm, Dual Pixel PDAF
Features	Face detection, HDR, panorama	HDR	Dual video call, Auto-HDR
Video	720p@30fps	4K@24/30/60fps, 1080p@30/60/120fps, gyro-EIS	4K@30/60fps, 1080p@30fps

Sound	Loudspeaker	Yes	Yes, with stereo speakers	Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack	Yes	No	Yes
	16-bit/44.1kHz audio		32-bit/384kHz audio Tuned by AKG

Comms	WLAN	Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, hotspot	Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6, dual-band, hotspot	Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot
Bluetooth	4.2, A2DP, LE	5.0, A2DP, LE	5.0, A2DP, LE, aptX
GPS	Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS	Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, QZSS	Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO
NFC	Yes (Apple Pay only)	Yes	Yes
Infrared port	No	No	No
Radio	No	No	FM radio (USA & Canada only)
USB	Lightning, USB 2.0	Lightning, USB 2.0	USB Type-C 3.1

Features	Sensors	Fingerprint (front-mounted), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass	Face ID, accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer	Fingerprint (side-mounted), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
		Ultra Wideband (UWB) support	ANT+ Bixby natural language commands and dictation Samsung Pay (Visa, MasterCard certified)

Battery	Type	Li-Po 1624 mAh, non-removable (6.21 Wh)	Li-Ion 2227 mAh, non-removable (8.57 Wh)	Li-Ion 3100 mAh, non-removable
Charging		Fast charging 20W, 50% in 30 min (advertised) USB Power Delivery 2.0 MagSafe fast wireless charging 15W Qi wireless charging 7.5W	Fast charging 15W USB Power Delivery 2.0 Fast Qi/PMA wireless charging 15W Reverse wireless charging 4.5W
Stand-by	Up to 240 h (3G)
Talk time	Up to 14 h (3G)

Misc
Colors	Space Gray, Silver, Gold, Rose Gold	Black, White, Red, Green, Blue, Purple	Prism White, Prism Black, Prism Green, Prism Blue, Canary Yellow, Flamingo Pink
SAR	1.17 W/kg (head) 1.19 W/kg (body)		0.56 W/kg (head) 0.70 W/kg (body)
SAR EU	0.72 W/kg (head) 0.97 W/kg (body)	0.99 W/kg (head) 0.99 W/kg (body)	0.58 W/kg (head) 1.57 W/kg (body)
Models	A1662, A1723, A1724, iPhone8,4	A2399, A2176, A2398, A2400, A2399, iPhone13,1	SM-G970F, SM-G970U, SM-G970W, SM-G9700, SM-G970U1, SM-G970N, SM-G970X
Price	About 140 EUR	$ 392.99 / € 634.99 / £ 479.99 / Rp 10,285,000	$ 170.57 / € 381.90 / £ 328.00 / C$ 559.99 / Rp 2,659,300

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